Chat log of community meeting on 13th February 2011

Logged chat of Meeting held on Sunday 13th February 2011,
on the village green, OUtopia.Aseret Quintessa acting as Chair.

[2011/02/13 12:11] Aseret Quintessa: right lets start
[2011/02/13 12:11] DeeDee Bookmite: kk
[2011/02/13 12:11] Jonno Stromfield: fewer people to wrangle into order for you As
[2011/02/13 12:12] Aseret Quintessa: welcome one and all and thank you for giving up your rl to be here
[2011/02/13 12:12] Tori Landau: 4 of us are birds for a start °͜°
[2011/02/13 12:12] Isis Sheryffe: :)
[2011/02/13 12:12] Aseret Quintessa: yes Jono it’s like herding cats ;)
[2011/02/13 12:12] Kered Rickena: prash is coming
[2011/02/13 12:12] Tori Landau: good
[2011/02/13 12:12] Arthur5 Resident: Is DavidMike coming?
[2011/02/13 12:12] Isis Sheryffe: Hi Prash
[2011/02/13 12:13] Aseret Quintessa: ty Kered
[2011/02/13 12:13] DeeDee Bookmite: Hiya Prash
[2011/02/13 12:13] Tori Landau: i'll ask DM
[2011/02/13 12:13] Arthur5 Resident: Hi Prash
[2011/02/13 12:13] Prash Mavendorf: hi all.
[2011/02/13 12:13] Rozetta Fierenza: hi
[2011/02/13 12:13] Aseret Quintessa: Welcome Prash
[2011/02/13 12:13] Prash Mavendorf: i'm just doing my ironing. so apology if i don't appear active.
[2011/02/13 12:13] Isis Sheryffe: lol
[2011/02/13 12:13] Aseret Quintessa: k we must start we can fill late comers in
[2011/02/13 12:13] Aseret Quintessa: are there any apologies
[2011/02/13 12:14] Aseret Quintessa: no?
[2011/02/13 12:14] DeeDee Bookmite: no never say sorry
[2011/02/13 12:14] DeeDee Bookmite: that's what love means
[2011/02/13 12:14] Aseret Quintessa: sighs ;)
[2011/02/13 12:14] Kered Rickena: not that i know of
[2011/02/13 12:14] DeeDee Bookmite: kk I'll behave
[2011/02/13 12:14] Aseret Quintessa: item 2 then
[2011/02/13 12:15] Aseret Quintessa: Matters Arising
[2011/02/13 12:15] Aseret Quintessa: does anyone have any points from previous the previous meeting?
[2011/02/13 12:15] Isis Sheryffe: not me
[2011/02/13 12:15] Isis Sheryffe: ty
[2011/02/13 12:15] Kered Rickena: no
[2011/02/13 12:15] Rozetta Fierenza: first one, so no
[2011/02/13 12:15] Jonno Stromfield: no. we said we's do some plans and we did.
[2011/02/13 12:15] Jonno Stromfield: we'd
[2011/02/13 12:16] Aseret Quintessa: yes and a lot of work from everyone who has put a proposal in
[2011/02/13 12:16] Aseret Quintessa: so that will give a lot for people to consider
[2011/02/13 12:17] Aseret Quintessa: can we move on to Item 3?
[2011/02/13 12:17] Isis Sheryffe: not sure I posted mine in the right place
[2011/02/13 12:17] DeeDee Bookmite: lol like the tag Jonno ;)
[2011/02/13 12:17] DeeDee Bookmite: ooops sorry - shuts up
[2011/02/13 12:17] Tori Landau: np isis, i used some of your's in the sandbox one
[2011/02/13 12:17] DeeDee Bookmite: yes item 3 The plans
[2011/02/13 12:17] Jonno Stromfield: hi, RS
[2011/02/13 12:17] Aseret Quintessa: I think we need to make sure everyone knows where the plans are
[2011/02/13 12:17] Isis Sheryffe: Hi Rs
[2011/02/13 12:17] Rozetta Fierenza: Hi
[2011/02/13 12:17] rs8877 Resident: Hi, Sorry I'm late
[2011/02/13 12:17] DeeDee Bookmite: Hi Rs
[2011/02/13 12:18] Aseret Quintessa: Even if it’s a new thread that says where to look for them
[2011/02/13 12:18] Isis Sheryffe: good idea
[2011/02/13 12:18] Tori Landau: Yes... it could list the names of all the threads that have the plans
[2011/02/13 12:18] Aseret Quintessa: Personally I think it would be sensible not to go over each of the plans
[2011/02/13 12:18] Isis Sheryffe: I agree
[2011/02/13 12:19] Isis Sheryffe: mine is far too words
[2011/02/13 12:19] Aseret Quintessa: that would take forever and I don't feel it would help at all
[2011/02/13 12:19] Isis Sheryffe: wordy*
[2011/02/13 12:19] Tori Landau: we could be here all night, and btw, i've replied to the sandbox replies
[2011/02/13 12:19] Tori Landau: as much as i can for now
[2011/02/13 12:19] Aseret Quintessa: yes the forum is the best place to discuss but what does everyone else feel?
[2011/02/13 12:19] Jonno Stromfield: I think we have about 6
[2011/02/13 12:19] Tori Landau: isis, it went up which was main thing
[2011/02/13 12:19] Aseret Quintessa: yes around that Jonno
[2011/02/13 12:19] DeeDee Bookmite: not many people are discussing there
[2011/02/13 12:20] Aseret Quintessa: no and we need to encourage discussion
[2011/02/13 12:20] DeeDee Bookmite: mine isn't a plan
[2011/02/13 12:20] Xara Thespian: people are bored with it
[2011/02/13 12:20] Jonno Stromfield: okay 5
[2011/02/13 12:20] DeeDee Bookmite: just a 'I want' list
[2011/02/13 12:20] DeeDee Bookmite: :)
[2011/02/13 12:20] Aseret Quintessa: lol Dee
[2011/02/13 12:20] Tori Landau: yes, but it helps Dee °͜°
[2011/02/13 12:20] Jonno Stromfield: we need to set up the vote.
[2011/02/13 12:20] Isis Sheryffe: yes
[2011/02/13 12:20] Aseret Quintessa: no I agree its time to read and decide
[2011/02/13 12:20] Jonno Stromfield: possibly we should have hustings
[2011/02/13 12:20] DeeDee Bookmite: it seems to be a bit too similar to others to be a plan
[2011/02/13 12:20] Tori Landau: Greg found out he can do multiple chioce which is a help
[2011/02/13 12:20] DeeDee Bookmite: hustings
[2011/02/13 12:20] DeeDee Bookmite: ?
[2011/02/13 12:21] Aseret Quintessa: Do you think hustings would help Jonno
[2011/02/13 12:21] Jonno Stromfield: I don't know
[2011/02/13 12:21] Aseret Quintessa: I think it would cause problems trying to discuss in world
[2011/02/13 12:21] Tori Landau: he's working on fining out if he can keep the plan threads to the top of ther forum
[2011/02/13 12:21] Aseret Quintessa: the fastest typer wins
[2011/02/13 12:21] Tori Landau: lol
[2011/02/13 12:21] Isis Sheryffe: lol
[2011/02/13 12:21] Aseret Quintessa: ;)
[2011/02/13 12:21] Xara Thespian: no i'm sorry I think it's time to act
[2011/02/13 12:21] Jonno Stromfield: just a thought, we could have a machimised debate
[2011/02/13 12:21] Isis Sheryffe: me too Xara
[2011/02/13 12:21] Tori Landau: What did you have in mind re husting Jonno?
[2011/02/13 12:21] Rozetta Fierenza: I didn't actually know about the forum...
[2011/02/13 12:22] Jonno Stromfield: a 45 minute debate
[2011/02/13 12:22] Aseret Quintessa: are you able to access the forum
[2011/02/13 12:22] Jonno Stromfield: 5 plans, 5 mins each plus questions
[2011/02/13 12:22] Aseret Quintessa: title suits Jonno
[2011/02/13 12:22] Kered Rickena: Roz http://learn.open.ac.uk/mod/forum/view.php?id=540963
[2011/02/13 12:22] Isis Sheryffe: but how many would come Jonno
[2011/02/13 12:22] Isis Sheryffe: ?
[2011/02/13 12:22] Jonno Stromfield: simply complimenting Dee
[2011/02/13 12:22] Jonno Stromfield: I don't know, Isis
[2011/02/13 12:22] Rozetta Fierenza: thanks for the link.
[2011/02/13 12:22] Aseret Quintessa: It won't work Jonno, talks in world are difficult
[2011/02/13 12:22] Kered Rickena: log in first
[2011/02/13 12:23] Isis Sheryffe: those interested can read the info
[2011/02/13 12:23] Xara Thespian: not many here tonight
[2011/02/13 12:23] Aseret Quintessa: never mind with 5 people plus listeners
[2011/02/13 12:23] Tori Landau: some og the plans have similarities though..maybe people could work on amalgamating some of them so that there would be fewer plans
[2011/02/13 12:23] Arthur5 Resident: For what it matters, hustings infer a competitive decision, I feel it would be much more helpful, if possible, to reach a consensual agreement on the best plans.
[2011/02/13 12:23] Aseret Quintessa: no Xara and as you said a lot are bored with it
[2011/02/13 12:23] Jonno Stromfield: a tv debate energised the general election
[2011/02/13 12:23] DeeDee Bookmite: I read Jonno's properly and mine is a cheap version so I am leaning that direction I think
[2011/02/13 12:23] Aseret Quintessa: lol
[2011/02/13 12:23] Tori Landau: brb
[2011/02/13 12:23] Jonno Stromfield: anyway, the mood here seems against it
[2011/02/13 12:24] Aseret Quintessa: I would be for it but SL is an ustable media for such a full on process
[2011/02/13 12:24] Aseret Quintessa: I don't believe it would work
[2011/02/13 12:24] Xara Thespian: have
[2011/02/13 12:24] Xara Thespian: I ahvbe watched and read all didnt need to be here
[2011/02/13 12:24] Aseret Quintessa: and we have lost people over the weeks this has been going on
[2011/02/13 12:24] Xara Thespian: yes
[2011/02/13 12:24] Tori Landau: back, sorry, my mum needed me
[2011/02/13 12:24] Jonno Stromfield: we appreciate your presence xara
[2011/02/13 12:25] DeeDee Bookmite: wb Tori
[2011/02/13 12:25] Isis Sheryffe: I tried to put lots of folks ideas for what they wanted together with a few extra ideas - but if you want to throw it out fine by me - I will not be upset - just tried to help in my own way
[2011/02/13 12:25] Arthur5 Resident: What about using voice, or are there some that do not have the equipment?
[2011/02/13 12:25] Aseret Quintessa: yes its good to have you here Xara
[2011/02/13 12:25] Xara Thespian: I am here because I am concerned
[2011/02/13 12:25] Xara Thespian: deaf
[2011/02/13 12:25] Tori Landau: re tv deabte idea, in theory i like it, just concerned about how wrokable it would be
[2011/02/13 12:25] Aseret Quintessa: some wont have equipment
[2011/02/13 12:25] Aseret Quintessa: nods and then it would need text as well
[2011/02/13 12:25] DeeDee Bookmite: Yes Isis it is helpful to have everyone's views and I feel they all have merits
[2011/02/13 12:25] Xara Thespian: more work more time
[2011/02/13 12:26] Aseret Quintessa: I feel we have to leave it as it is Jonno sorry
[2011/02/13 12:26] Jonno Stromfield: okay
[2011/02/13 12:26] Aseret Quintessa: are there any other comments about the plans?
[2011/02/13 12:26] Isis Sheryffe: yes good idea - maybe another time if we need new ideas for future and have more time
[2011/02/13 12:26] Aseret Quintessa: yes I agree Isis
[2011/02/13 12:26] Tori Landau: agree sisi
[2011/02/13 12:26] Xara Thespian: agree
[2011/02/13 12:26] Tori Landau: isis even
[2011/02/13 12:26] Rozetta Fierenza: i agree
[2011/02/13 12:26] DeeDee Bookmite: so what happens re the plans now?
[2011/02/13 12:27] Xara Thespian: wevote
[2011/02/13 12:27] Aseret Quintessa: yes we vote on them Dee
[2011/02/13 12:27] DeeDee Bookmite: okay on the website?
[2011/02/13 12:27] Aseret Quintessa: yes
[2011/02/13 12:27] Tori Landau: yes, Greg can set it up
[2011/02/13 12:27] Jonno Stromfield: I think we need to talk about the vote, and then the authors should put up definitive versions for the vote
[2011/02/13 12:27] Aseret Quintessa: lets move to item 4 and discuss voting
[2011/02/13 12:27] DeeDee Bookmite: and then the one we pick goes before the Steering Committee for approval? Is that how it goes?
[2011/02/13 12:27] Jonno Stromfield: or not as they choose
[2011/02/13 12:28] Jonno Stromfield: I guess so Dee
[2011/02/13 12:28] Tori Landau: yes.... sandbox plans needs a couple of things added from replies today
[2011/02/13 12:28] Xara Thespian: my understanding
[2011/02/13 12:28] Aseret Quintessa: yes I believe so
[2011/02/13 12:28] DeeDee Bookmite: okay
[2011/02/13 12:28] Isis Sheryffe: afraid I do not have time to adjust things - E-tutorial this week to prep for
[2011/02/13 12:28] Aseret Quintessa: the one chosen on the forum is put forward
[2011/02/13 12:28] Kered Rickena: me to
[2011/02/13 12:28] Tori Landau: voting would need to finish the sat before plan chosen has to be submitted
[2011/02/13 12:28] Jonno Stromfield: ?
[2011/02/13 12:29] Xara Thespian: no time for prevarication
[2011/02/13 12:29] Kered Rickena: sooner
[2011/02/13 12:29] Isis Sheryffe: what if there is a tie?
[2011/02/13 12:29] Aseret Quintessa: I don't know Isis
[2011/02/13 12:29] Tori Landau: so voting could start on....
[2011/02/13 12:29] Aseret Quintessa: if there is a tie it would have to put to the Steering committee there was a split
[2011/02/13 12:29] Tori Landau: 19th
[2011/02/13 12:29] Kered Rickena: as soon as possible
[2011/02/13 12:29] Jonno Stromfield: we need to decide the form of the vote and ask greg to set it up
[2011/02/13 12:29] Aseret Quintessa: yes I agree Kered
[2011/02/13 12:29] Isis Sheryffe: asap
[2011/02/13 12:30] Tori Landau: which is quite soon
[2011/02/13 12:30] Isis Sheryffe: yes
[2011/02/13 12:30] Aseret Quintessa: yes we do
[2011/02/13 12:30] Jonno Stromfield: we need to advertise it
[2011/02/13 12:30] DeeDee Bookmite: in the event of a draw we could have a sparring tournament as someone suggested
[2011/02/13 12:30] Xara Thespian: asap
[2011/02/13 12:30] Isis Sheryffe: true Jonno
[2011/02/13 12:30] Tori Landau: we need to allow Greg a couple of days to set it up
[2011/02/13 12:30] Rozetta Fierenza: yes
[2011/02/13 12:30] Aseret Quintessa: yes advertising starts now
[2011/02/13 12:30] DeeDee Bookmite: how long to vote
[2011/02/13 12:30] Rozetta Fierenza: advertising?
[2011/02/13 12:30] Tori Landau: and remember he only works wed, thurs fri on whole of OU
[2011/02/13 12:30] Aseret Quintessa: we need to tell all verified they have a vote
[2011/02/13 12:30] Jonno Stromfield: tell people that it's happening, Roz
[2011/02/13 12:30] Xara Thespian: but this is our future/
[2011/02/13 12:30] Rozetta Fierenza: ah.
[2011/02/13 12:30] DeeDee Bookmite: through the forum?
[2011/02/13 12:30] Tori Landau: a week people thought Dee
[2011/02/13 12:30] Tori Landau: yes
[2011/02/13 12:30] Jonno Stromfield: messages, IM's posters
[2011/02/13 12:31] Kered Rickena: why a week
[2011/02/13 12:31] Jonno Stromfield: whatever
[2011/02/13 12:31] Tori Landau: multiple choice
[2011/02/13 12:31] DeeDee Bookmite: a week?
[2011/02/13 12:31] Aseret Quintessa: then we need to advise him on now and ask if he can set up on wednesday
[2011/02/13 12:31] DeeDee Bookmite: thats very long
[2011/02/13 12:31] Aseret Quintessa: how long?
[2011/02/13 12:31] Tori Landau: a week was the suggesttion last meeting
[2011/02/13 12:31] Aseret Quintessa: do we need a week
[2011/02/13 12:31] Kered Rickena: a general ellection only takes a day
[2011/02/13 12:31] Jonno Stromfield: I'd like longer in case people are on holiday
[2011/02/13 12:31] Tori Landau: not really for everyone to have a chance to vote
[2011/02/13 12:31] Aseret Quintessa: an general election takes a day
[2011/02/13 12:31] Xara Thespian: we have talked when we need to act
[2011/02/13 12:31] Jonno Stromfield: no it doesn't kered. You have weeks for a postal vote
[2011/02/13 12:31] Tori Landau: we are acting xara
[2011/02/13 12:31] Rozetta Fierenza: a week is long enough, as people need time to make a decision
[2011/02/13 12:32] Tori Landau: two weeks was proposed origoinally
[2011/02/13 12:32] DeeDee Bookmite: okay but I do think a week is long enough
[2011/02/13 12:32] Tori Landau: then last meeting it was reduced to a week
[2011/02/13 12:32] Isis Sheryffe: yes I recall 1 week
[2011/02/13 12:32] Jonno Stromfield: can you expand as to why it has to close on Staurday, Tori?
[2011/02/13 12:32] Rozetta Fierenza: bad timing - sorry, I have to go.
[2011/02/13 12:32] Isis Sheryffe: Hi Laz
[2011/02/13 12:32] Tori Landau: the last day for submitting plan is the 2nd March
[2011/02/13 12:32] Titiana Haystack: well I'm away from 10 days starting from Friday
[2011/02/13 12:32] Lazarus Loxely: hi all
[2011/02/13 12:32] DeeDee Bookmite: HiLaz
[2011/02/13 12:32] Jonno Stromfield: okay, Roz. nice to have seen you
[2011/02/13 12:32] Isis Sheryffe: bye Roz
[2011/02/13 12:32] DeeDee Bookmite: bye Roz :)
[2011/02/13 12:32] Aseret Quintessa: yes we haven't time to mess about anymore
[2011/02/13 12:33] Rozetta Fierenza: I think I've got the ideas
[2011/02/13 12:33] Aseret Quintessa: bye
[2011/02/13 12:33] Titiana Haystack: bye Roz7
[2011/02/13 12:33] Tori Landau: the wed, ideally i'd like to submit it on the tues
[2011/02/13 12:33] Rozetta Fierenza: bye
[2011/02/13 12:33] Lazarus Loxely: bye Roz
[2011/02/13 12:33] Tori Landau: so need to know which plan is being submitted
[2011/02/13 12:33] Aseret Quintessa: I do think it has to be asap
[2011/02/13 12:33] Tori Landau: by the Mon
[2011/02/13 12:33] Isis Sheryffe: the earlier for you the better Tori
[2011/02/13 12:33] Jonno Stromfield: that's three weeks away
[2011/02/13 12:33] Isis Sheryffe: in case of internet probs
[2011/02/13 12:33] DeeDee Bookmite: so we have the vote as soon as Greg can set up the voting facility?
[2011/02/13 12:34] Isis Sheryffe: I think it would be best
[2011/02/13 12:34] Arthur5 Resident: I have to go now, nice to see you all, bye for now. :)
[2011/02/13 12:34] Tori Landau: exactly, my broadband has a habit of misbehaving
[2011/02/13 12:34] Aseret Quintessa: yes in reality it would be best
[2011/02/13 12:34] Jonno Stromfield: okay Art
[2011/02/13 12:34] Xara Thespian: bye
[2011/02/13 12:34] Isis Sheryffe: bye Arthur
[2011/02/13 12:34] DeeDee Bookmite: Bye Arthur
[2011/02/13 12:34] Aseret Quintessa: bye
[2011/02/13 12:34] Jonno Stromfield: cu
[2011/02/13 12:34] Lazarus Loxely: bye Arthur, have fun!
[2011/02/13 12:34] Tori Landau: yes... if we start voting on 19th, that is this coming Sat
[2011/02/13 12:34] Kered Rickena: so if it cant be set up before weds and a week to vote only leaves a week to sort it out
[2011/02/13 12:34] Titiana Haystack: gee thanks. I'll be away
[2011/02/13 12:34] Tori Landau: yes kered
[2011/02/13 12:34] Isis Sheryffe: can you log into internet whilst away Titiana?
[2011/02/13 12:34] Jonno Stromfield: that's why I wanted it longer
[2011/02/13 12:35] Titiana Haystack: not rreally it's a silent retreat lol
[2011/02/13 12:35] Aseret Quintessa: I think if people are away they should be able to register the vote as soon as the system is lve
[2011/02/13 12:35] Tori Landau: longer for ther voting?
[2011/02/13 12:35] Isis Sheryffe: shame
[2011/02/13 12:35] Titiana Haystack: but it doesn't matter
[2011/02/13 12:35] Jonno Stromfield: yes
[2011/02/13 12:35] DeeDee Bookmite: but longer doesn't necessarily help, people could be going away for 3 weeks
[2011/02/13 12:35] Aseret Quintessa: yes
[2011/02/13 12:35] DeeDee Bookmite: or more
[2011/02/13 12:35] Jonno Stromfield: unlikely
[2011/02/13 12:35] Isis Sheryffe: true
[2011/02/13 12:35] Kered Rickena: lucky them #
[2011/02/13 12:35] DeeDee Bookmite: not really
[2011/02/13 12:35] Tori Landau: I can ask Kick to set it up sooner, but it would prob be Thurs at earliest
[2011/02/13 12:35] Aseret Quintessa: and some will miss the date
[2011/02/13 12:35] Xara Thespian: ypou can’t legislate for everybody to be here
[2011/02/13 12:35] Jonno Stromfield: no
[2011/02/13 12:35] DeeDee Bookmite: agreed
[2011/02/13 12:35] Aseret Quintessa: I fee asap
[2011/02/13 12:36] Aseret Quintessa: but it has to be consenus here
[2011/02/13 12:36] DeeDee Bookmite: yes I think asap and Greg said it was easy to set up
[2011/02/13 12:36] Tori Landau: OK,... do we want Thurs then, if possible?
[2011/02/13 12:36] Isis Sheryffe: what ever Greg can do
[2011/02/13 12:36] Jonno Stromfield: asap
[2011/02/13 12:36] DeeDee Bookmite: Thurs yes and okay max 2 weeks to vote
[2011/02/13 12:36] Aseret Quintessa: I agree to asap
[2011/02/13 12:36] Tori Landau: it is, but he has other committments with the OU in sl remember ;)
[2011/02/13 12:36] Jonno Stromfield: whatever that is
[2011/02/13 12:36] Titiana Haystack: Don't worry about me, I was just using it as an example
[2011/02/13 12:36] Lazarus Loxely: yep asap
[2011/02/13 12:36] Xara Thespian: asap
[2011/02/13 12:36] Titiana Haystack: I'll go with the flow.
[2011/02/13 12:37] DeeDee Bookmite: does 2 weeks help you Titiana
[2011/02/13 12:37] Tori Landau: er, even thisThurs won't give us 2 weeks Dee
[2011/02/13 12:37] Xara Thespian: Outopia is OU
[2011/02/13 12:37] Titiana Haystack: no, it really doesn't matter DeeDee
[2011/02/13 12:37] Aseret Quintessa: okay its agreed Tori if you are happy to sort that out.
[2011/02/13 12:37] Titiana Haystack: sorry I shouldn't have said anything
[2011/02/13 12:37] Tori Landau: that would be up to 3rd March
[2011/02/13 12:37] DeeDee Bookmite: oh sorry I hadn't realised that Tori
[2011/02/13 12:37] Tori Landau: yes it is Xara, but OUtopia is only a small part of OU in SL
[2011/02/13 12:37] Xara Thespian: but this is our future
[2011/02/13 12:37] Jonno Stromfield: not in terms of activity
[2011/02/13 12:38] Aseret Quintessa: thing is unless we put forward a plan we have no sim anyway
[2011/02/13 12:38] Tori Landau: I will As, I'll email Greg after meeting
[2011/02/13 12:38] Kered Rickena: can’ have that long to vote or we wont be able to write up the full plan to submit
[2011/02/13 12:38] Jonno Stromfield: Okay. So do people want first past the post, or alternative voting?
[2011/02/13 12:38] Aseret Quintessa: k thank you Tori
[2011/02/13 12:38] Tori Landau: we need as full a plan as possible with each of them before voting, so that people know what is fully involved in each plan
[2011/02/13 12:39] Tori Landau: not sure that's possible Jonno
[2011/02/13 12:39] DeeDee Bookmite: I think first past the post
[2011/02/13 12:39] Tori Landau: I know only that multiple choice is
[2011/02/13 12:39] Lazarus Loxely: if they get anymore detailed i shall vote for the shortest one
[2011/02/13 12:39] DeeDee Bookmite: lol
[2011/02/13 12:39] Kered Rickena: i dont have time to re wite it all up again
[2011/02/13 12:39] Jonno Stromfield: I would really like us to have first second and third choice
[2011/02/13 12:39] Jonno Stromfield: first past the post sucks
[2011/02/13 12:39] Xara Thespian: we are out of time
[2011/02/13 12:39] Tori Landau: I'll ask Greg about it
[2011/02/13 12:39] DeeDee Bookmite: yes but is simplest
[2011/02/13 12:40] Jonno Stromfield: I would withdraw my plan immediately if it were first past the post
[2011/02/13 12:40] Aseret Quintessa: if it hadn't taken so long to get to this point we could have done alternative but its too late noew
[2011/02/13 12:40] Aseret Quintessa: now
[2011/02/13 12:40] Xara Thespian: why Jonno
[2011/02/13 12:40] Jonno Stromfield: there are others too similar
[2011/02/13 12:40] DeeDee Bookmite: the De Haut system maybe ? ;)
[2011/02/13 12:40] Tori Landau: why, ah
[2011/02/13 12:40] Jonno Stromfield: it would split the vote and Kered's plan, which I don't like would get it
[2011/02/13 12:41] Xara Thespian: I dont loke Tori's plan but would abide by the community
[2011/02/13 12:41] Aseret Quintessa: Dee said hers is a wish list
[2011/02/13 12:41] Tori Landau: maybe we could reach a consensus on some of the plans
[2011/02/13 12:41] Xara Thespian: like
[2011/02/13 12:41] Tori Landau: it's not 'my plan' xara
[2011/02/13 12:41] Jonno Stromfield: too late for consensus
[2011/02/13 12:41] Aseret Quintessa: do you want yours put forward to be voted on Dee
[2011/02/13 12:41] Xara Thespian: Kered has left he has had enough
[2011/02/13 12:41] Jonno Stromfield: if it's AV it doesn't matter
[2011/02/13 12:41] Tori Landau: that's his problem, not our's
[2011/02/13 12:41] Lazarus Loxely: i'd vote for Dee's with amendments such as have been suggested on the forum
[2011/02/13 12:41] Aseret Quintessa: I agree with Dee#s wish list so everyone knows
[2011/02/13 12:42] DeeDee Bookmite: no because when I read Jonno's, mine was too similar for it to be a proposal on it's own
[2011/02/13 12:42] Aseret Quintessa: kk
[2011/02/13 12:42] Xara Thespian: no thats a very unfair comment Tori
[2011/02/13 12:42] DeeDee Bookmite: ie it wasn't original lol
[2011/02/13 12:42] Tori Landau: there are simlilarites between sandbox plan and jonno's too
[2011/02/13 12:42] Jonno Stromfield: Hat's/Isis's and mine are v similar too
[2011/02/13 12:42] Lazarus Loxely: yours was bite sized Dee
[2011/02/13 12:42] DeeDee Bookmite: have people suggested I amend my widhlist?
[2011/02/13 12:42] Tori Landau: and yes, \isis's too
[2011/02/13 12:42] Aseret Quintessa: is Marion putting hers forward or your plan Jonno?
[2011/02/13 12:42] Aseret Quintessa: which one is the joint effort?
[2011/02/13 12:43] DeeDee Bookmite: yes a bite size, no 4 syllable word version of Jonno's lol
[2011/02/13 12:43] Jonno Stromfield: I don't know, As. She said she would log in while away
[2011/02/13 12:43] Jonno Stromfield: but she hasn't so I'm not sure
[2011/02/13 12:43] Xara Thespian: Well it looks like you will do what you want and nobody else matters
[2011/02/13 12:43] Jonno Stromfield: or if she has she hasn't said
[2011/02/13 12:43] DeeDee Bookmite: when they are too long I only read them half way
[2011/02/13 12:43] Xara Thespian: so I am off as well .I had hoped tghings had changed
[2011/02/13 12:43] Tori Landau: Sandbox one had a lot of input, i think it's the sandbox part, not having private plots that is the problem people have with it
[2011/02/13 12:44] Jonno Stromfield: that's the main problem I have, tori
[2011/02/13 12:44] Titiana Haystack: bye xara
[2011/02/13 12:44] Jonno Stromfield: bye Xara
[2011/02/13 12:44] Isis Sheryffe: I must be honest I like some idea of private plots
[2011/02/13 12:44] Jonno Stromfield: can't you stay?
[2011/02/13 12:45] Tori Landau: yes, they need to kept concise which isn't easy when people require more detail on some parts
[2011/02/13 12:45] Isis Sheryffe: I found that very difficult
[2011/02/13 12:45] Isis Sheryffe: bullet points would have been misunderstood
[2011/02/13 12:45] Tori Landau: i replied to your reply btw on the forum re the houses Jonno
[2011/02/13 12:45] Jonno Stromfield: yes, i saw
[2011/02/13 12:45] Jonno Stromfield: ty
[2011/02/13 12:45] Tori Landau: a way of mitigating it
[2011/02/13 12:45] Jonno Stromfield: not enough, IMO
[2011/02/13 12:45] DeeDee Bookmite: yes Isis I think private plots/flats provide a sense of belonging, a base and helps us keep people coming back
[2011/02/13 12:45] Lazarus Loxely: personally as nothing has to be set in stone, i would put the parts we cannot agree on in a 'to do' list and focus on banging what's left into a consistent vision
[2011/02/13 12:46] Prash Mavendorf: can i assume that the meeting will be minuted / summarised for later?
[2011/02/13 12:46] Tori Landau: it could be done as part of an overall sandbox idea
[2011/02/13 12:46] Prash Mavendorf: lol.
[2011/02/13 12:46] Isis Sheryffe: true Tori
[2011/02/13 12:46] Tori Landau: yes prash, my log will go up
[2011/02/13 12:46] Prash Mavendorf: i seemed to have missed a lot here. lol.
[2011/02/13 12:46] Aseret Quintessa: Can I just drag you back to the voiting a mo
[2011/02/13 12:46] Prash Mavendorf: thanks.
[2011/02/13 12:46] Isis Sheryffe: sorry As
[2011/02/13 12:46] Aseret Quintessa: np lol
[2011/02/13 12:46] Jonno Stromfield: I don't think there can be consensus between elected government and no government
[2011/02/13 12:47] Tori Landau: i would like that laz too, but seems we don't have time left
[2011/02/13 12:47] Aseret Quintessa: have we finished with talking about the voting
[2011/02/13 12:47] Jonno Stromfield: no
[2011/02/13 12:47] Prash Mavendorf: brb
[2011/02/13 12:47] Lazarus Loxely: and yet all i hear is how similar so many plans are...
[2011/02/13 12:47] Jonno Stromfield: AV or first past the post
[2011/02/13 12:47] DeeDee Bookmite: what about an open vote on the forum where people put their choices 1.2.3
[2011/02/13 12:47] Prash Mavendorf: first past the post.
[2011/02/13 12:47] Jonno Stromfield: why, prash
[2011/02/13 12:47] Prash Mavendorf: av is too liberal democrat.
[2011/02/13 12:47] DeeDee Bookmite: lol
[2011/02/13 12:47] Prash Mavendorf: lol.
[2011/02/13 12:47] Jonno Stromfield: for F***'s sake
[2011/02/13 12:47] Prash Mavendorf: but seriously, it would be easier. lol.
[2011/02/13 12:47] Lazarus Loxely: lol
[2011/02/13 12:47] DeeDee Bookmite: rofl
[2011/02/13 12:47] Tori Landau: need to find out what the forum voting is capable of first
[2011/02/13 12:48] Aseret Quintessa: we do alternative
[2011/02/13 12:48] Jonno Stromfield: not really, and very unfair
[2011/02/13 12:48] DeeDee Bookmite: how about a voting thread
[2011/02/13 12:48] Tori Landau: i'll have to get that from Greg
[2011/02/13 12:48] Aseret Quintessa: too much talk early on in this process
[2011/02/13 12:48] DeeDee Bookmite: we post choice 1 2 and 3
[2011/02/13 12:48] Lazarus Loxely: i have a large hat we could put slips of paper in...
[2011/02/13 12:48] Titiana Haystack: sounds nice and simple
[2011/02/13 12:48] Jonno Stromfield: I started one and no one has replied
[2011/02/13 12:48] DeeDee Bookmite: lol
[2011/02/13 12:48] Aseret Quintessa: I would like that but will people want to vote in public?
[2011/02/13 12:48] Prash Mavendorf: liking the idea laz.
[2011/02/13 12:48] Tori Landau: i doubt it
[2011/02/13 12:48] Aseret Quintessa: LOL Laz
[2011/02/13 12:49] Prash Mavendorf: i wouldn't want to vote in public.
[2011/02/13 12:49] DeeDee Bookmite: well it isn't as if we don't all know who likes what
[2011/02/13 12:49] Tori Landau: it needs to remain anonymous
[2011/02/13 12:49] Lazarus Loxely thinks prash just wants to see me hat
[2011/02/13 12:49] DeeDee Bookmite: why Tori?
[2011/02/13 12:49] Prash Mavendorf: i think we need a returning officer to accept the votes on behalf of the voters.
[2011/02/13 12:49] Tori Landau: soem people wouldn't vote if it was public
[2011/02/13 12:49] Jonno Stromfield: lol. yes, I'd prefer anonymous
[2011/02/13 12:49] Prash Mavendorf: i am happy to be the returning officer and not take a vote if necessary.
[2011/02/13 12:49] Jonno Stromfield: Prash is right
[2011/02/13 12:49] Isis Sheryffe: I don't care if anon or not
[2011/02/13 12:49] Aseret Quintessa: that is for the forum
[2011/02/13 12:49] Jonno Stromfield: but we need two. I hope Greg will be one
[2011/02/13 12:50] DeeDee Bookmite: well then we shall have to use the OU suggestion
[2011/02/13 12:50] Tori Landau: wel, on forum it would be Greg who is the returning officer
[2011/02/13 12:50] DeeDee Bookmite: they may only allow that anyway
[2011/02/13 12:50] Isis Sheryffe: I would think so
[2011/02/13 12:50] Jonno Stromfield: "They" ooo scarey
[2011/02/13 12:50] Tori Landau: i assume considering he'd be running the vote and yes, that is very possible
[2011/02/13 12:50] Tori Landau: lol
[2011/02/13 12:50] Prash Mavendorf: the problem with public voting is that everyone will see what everyone is voting and would make it difficult for any1 to make a proper vote and could be bullied to vote in a particular way.
[2011/02/13 12:50] Aseret Quintessa: so who will be with him do the job
[2011/02/13 12:50] DeeDee Bookmite: I doubt that
[2011/02/13 12:50] Jonno Stromfield: we have more birds than them
[2011/02/13 12:50] Tori Landau: exactly prash
[2011/02/13 12:51] Tori Landau: i never thought it would be public
[2011/02/13 12:51] Aseret Quintessa: it would be a lot of pressure when people could object about an outcome
[2011/02/13 12:51] Titiana Haystack: no the foolish owls have left
[2011/02/13 12:51] Prash Mavendorf: i don't really have a vested interest on this island, so i don't mind being the returning officer if Greg can't do it.
[2011/02/13 12:51] DeeDee Bookmite: yes I think even in real elections more than one person oversees the process
[2011/02/13 12:51] Tori Landau: btw, aplogies if i was a bit hardsh earlier
[2011/02/13 12:51] Aseret Quintessa: It would need two people to be returning officer
[2011/02/13 12:52] Isis Sheryffe: good of you to offer that Prash
[2011/02/13 12:52] Tori Landau: just frustrated
[2011/02/13 12:52] Aseret Quintessa: I think Greg and Niall would be a good choice
[2011/02/13 12:52] Titiana Haystack: no you were fine. they were waiting for an excuse imo
[2011/02/13 12:52] Aseret Quintessa: choice
[2011/02/13 12:52] DeeDee Bookmite: yes Niall
[2011/02/13 12:52] Prash Mavendorf: if everyone is happy for me to be 2nd choice, feel free to put me forward.
[2011/02/13 12:52] Prash Mavendorf: brb.... more ironing to do. lol.
[2011/02/13 12:52] Aseret Quintessa: Niall is on the committee
[2011/02/13 12:52] Lazarus Loxely: lol
[2011/02/13 12:52] Jonno Stromfield: okay
[2011/02/13 12:52] Prash Mavendorf: fee/feel.
[2011/02/13 12:52] Tori Landau: ok Prash, I'll mention it to Greg
[2011/02/13 12:52] Lazarus Loxely: i'm not sure i trust a man who irons tbh
[2011/02/13 12:52] DeeDee Bookmite: lmao
[2011/02/13 12:52] Aseret Quintessa: and it would better for Greg to have Niall
[2011/02/13 12:52] Titiana Haystack: lol
[2011/02/13 12:52] Tori Landau: laz, lol
[2011/02/13 12:52] Jonno Stromfield: lol, laz
[2011/02/13 12:52] Prash Mavendorf: i don't trust a man with devils horns. lol.
[2011/02/13 12:53] Aseret Quintessa: no never trust a man who irons ;)
[2011/02/13 12:53] Titiana Haystack: i don't trust a man
[2011/02/13 12:53] DeeDee Bookmite: yes I think it would be good to have Niall there over seeing it
[2011/02/13 12:53] Tori Landau: i'll mention it re Niall as well
[2011/02/13 12:53] Lazarus Loxely: ahhh good point Prash
[2011/02/13 12:53] Prash Mavendorf: cast whilst the iron is hot.
[2011/02/13 12:53] Aseret Quintessa: lol good on you T
[2011/02/13 12:53] DeeDee Bookmite: I agree and also never trust a man to iron
[2011/02/13 12:53] Prash Mavendorf: brb.
[2011/02/13 12:53] Titiana Haystack: ;-)
[2011/02/13 12:53] Tori Landau: (thinks she should have started a to do list and is grateful for chat logging)
[2011/02/13 12:53] Aseret Quintessa: I feel it needs to be split returning officere
[2011/02/13 12:53] Aseret Quintessa: we don't need accusations flying around after the vote
[2011/02/13 12:54] Jonno Stromfield: I never trust a no 5 iron. Had one break on me on the fourth hole
[2011/02/13 12:54] Titiana Haystack: bad workman????
[2011/02/13 12:54] Jonno Stromfield: °͜°
[2011/02/13 12:54] Tori Landau: i'm a bit confused As, what do you mean by a spilt returning officer?
[2011/02/13 12:54] Jonno Stromfield: yes, very much
[2011/02/13 12:54] Aseret Quintessa: either Dee's way completely open or closed and two returning officers
[2011/02/13 12:54] Aseret Quintessa: we need two Tori
[2011/02/13 12:54] Titiana Haystack: completely open
[2011/02/13 12:54] Tori Landau: ok, ty - Niall and Greg ideally?
[2011/02/13 12:55] Aseret Quintessa: there has to be two and it’s unfair on Greg to take all that responsibility
[2011/02/13 12:55] Aseret Quintessa: yes
[2011/02/13 12:55] Jonno Stromfield: fine by me
[2011/02/13 12:55] DeeDee Bookmite: I like completely open and would't have thought this a sensitive enough issue for people to worry about remaining anonymous
[2011/02/13 12:55] Tori Landau: agree it's unfair on Greg to be only one
[2011/02/13 12:55] Lazarus Loxely: yep so greg and niall asking greg to count them again, cool
[2011/02/13 12:55] Aseret Quintessa: if there is any upset it has to be fully backed by OU and two would shut people up
[2011/02/13 12:55] Isis Sheryffe: I am not so sure DeeDee some are more nervous than others
[2011/02/13 12:55] DeeDee Bookmite: yes
[2011/02/13 12:55] Jonno Stromfield: there's been a lot of bad feeling, Dee
[2011/02/13 12:55] Aseret Quintessa: sorry I am being bossy
[2011/02/13 12:56] DeeDee Bookmite: I suppose so, although tbh I am not sure why
[2011/02/13 12:56] Aseret Quintessa: I like open better
[2011/02/13 12:56] Tori Landau: I know there hat there are some epople who will vote if it's private, but it's why they haven't gopt involved due to some people on forum
[2011/02/13 12:56] Isis Sheryffe: I like open but some do not and would maybe not vote at all
[2011/02/13 12:56] Tori Landau: exactly isis
[2011/02/13 12:57] Tori Landau: remember that iwas asked by some to represent their views on the forum
[2011/02/13 12:57] Tori Landau: so they would certainly not want a public vote
[2011/02/13 12:57] DeeDee Bookmite: okay but if secret voting then I think it is good for OU to cover their backs by having Niall involved
[2011/02/13 12:57] Lazarus Loxely: my limited knowledge of online forum votes leads me to think it'll be anonymous anyway
[2011/02/13 12:57] Tori Landau: agree Dee
[2011/02/13 12:57] Titiana Haystack: but it's only variiations on a theme as far as I can see
[2011/02/13 12:57] Aseret Quintessa: I have no idea Laz not techy like that
[2011/02/13 12:57] Titiana Haystack: nothing senstive
[2011/02/13 12:58] Isis Sheryffe: I am sure Niall will want to be involved anyway
[2011/02/13 12:58] DeeDee Bookmite: yes though some plans were a bit authoritarian for my liking
[2011/02/13 12:58] DeeDee Bookmite: just small things
[2011/02/13 12:58] Titiana Haystack: yes DeeDee
[2011/02/13 12:58] DeeDee Bookmite: but important to me
[2011/02/13 12:58] Lazarus Loxely: yeah some Flo bird was on a right power trip
[2011/02/13 12:58] Jonno Stromfield: lol
[2011/02/13 12:58] Titiana Haystack: but I do my own thing anyway. Just do what I want elsewhere
[2011/02/13 12:58] Tori Landau: hehe
[2011/02/13 12:58] Aseret Quintessa: oi!!
[2011/02/13 12:58] DeeDee Bookmite: eh?
[2011/02/13 12:58] Aseret Quintessa: okay
[2011/02/13 12:58] DeeDee Bookmite: :P
[2011/02/13 12:58] Lazarus Loxely: ;)
[2011/02/13 12:58] Aseret Quintessa: so Tori has lots of jobs as usual
[2011/02/13 12:59] Aseret Quintessa: are you okay with all that Tori?
[2011/02/13 12:59] DeeDee Bookmite: haha yes pile it all on Tori
[2011/02/13 12:59] Tori Landau: the queries that have arisen re the sandbox plan i will try to find out
[2011/02/13 12:59] Tori Landau: plus the other stuff lol
[2011/02/13 12:59] DeeDee Bookmite: if you need a hand just ssay Tori
[2011/02/13 12:59] Jonno Stromfield: so what are the instructions?
[2011/02/13 12:59] Jonno Stromfield: As? Could you summarise, please?
[2011/02/13 13:00] Tori Landau: been thinking.... might be amalgamate some of them more, reduce number down
[2011/02/13 13:00] Aseret Quintessa: The plans that are on
[2011/02/13 13:00] Aseret Quintessa: yes Tori was just going to say that
[2011/02/13 13:00] Tori Landau: sandbox could include private plots as well
[2011/02/13 13:00] Aseret Quintessa: but they have to be quick
[2011/02/13 13:00] Tori Landau: yup
[2011/02/13 13:00] Aseret Quintessa: and that is you and Marion Jonno
[2011/02/13 13:00] Jonno Stromfield: why no leave it as it is? Give people a choice?
[2011/02/13 13:00] DeeDee Bookmite: basically there are 2 - Jonnos and Isis could be amalgamated plus CQ/Kereds
[2011/02/13 13:00] Tori Landau: and isis's plan - i borrowed bits from it
[2011/02/13 13:01] Aseret Quintessa: because it will split your vote
[2011/02/13 13:01] DeeDee Bookmite: oh yes and the sandbox
[2011/02/13 13:01] Jonno Stromfield: only if it's first past the post
[2011/02/13 13:01] DeeDee Bookmite: 3 main ones with only slight variations
[2011/02/13 13:01] Jonno Stromfield: if it's AV they can all go up
[2011/02/13 13:01] Isis Sheryffe: feel free to pick mine to bits if you like - sorry no time to do it myself until Wed at earliest
[2011/02/13 13:01] Titiana Haystack: splitting the voter does comlicate things.
[2011/02/13 13:01] Titiana Haystack: we should have pr
[2011/02/13 13:01] Titiana Haystack: oops vino
[2011/02/13 13:01] DeeDee Bookmite: lol
[2011/02/13 13:02] Aseret Quintessa: am I understanding that Tori and Isis might combine?
[2011/02/13 13:02] Tori Landau: if it is first past the vote then we need to ensure the plans are different
[2011/02/13 13:02] Jonno Stromfield: AV gets around the problem but we have to agree to do it.
[2011/02/13 13:02] Aseret Quintessa: and Jonno and Marion
[2011/02/13 13:02] Jonno Stromfield: Isis and mine are closer that mine and marions
[2011/02/13 13:02] DeeDee Bookmite: hmmm I thought Marion's was more like CQs
[2011/02/13 13:02] Titiana Haystack: I liked Isis's
[2011/02/13 13:02] Aseret Quintessa: so that is CQ and Kered, Jonno and Marion and Isis and Tori
[2011/02/13 13:02] Lazarus Loxely: i'd go for AV to help others who wish it if I am allowed to not have a 2nd, 3rd choice
[2011/02/13 13:02] Titiana Haystack: I could understand it
[2011/02/13 13:02] Aseret Quintessa: we need this sorted now
[2011/02/13 13:03] Tori Landau: ok, quick questiosn tonight - do people want any public space.... i mean.... can we have the public building areas plus private plots in one plan?
[2011/02/13 13:03] Jonno Stromfield: but can we please decide AV or first past the post, it would make everything else less of a problem
[2011/02/13 13:03] Aseret Quintessa: we are running over time just so everyone knows
[2011/02/13 13:03] DeeDee Bookmite: tsk 3 mins
[2011/02/13 13:03] Tori Landau: AV?
[2011/02/13 13:03] Lazarus Loxely: c'mon Quintessa get it under control
[2011/02/13 13:03] Jonno Stromfield: 1st 2nd and 3rd choice.
[2011/02/13 13:03] Aseret Quintessa: gets out the whip
[2011/02/13 13:03] Isis Sheryffe: Hi CQ
[2011/02/13 13:03] Tori Landau: ok, won't know that til i hear back from Greg
[2011/02/13 13:04] DeeDee Bookmite: Hi CQ
[2011/02/13 13:04] Tori Landau: hi CQ
[2011/02/13 13:04] Lazarus Loxely: how about 1st and 2bd choice, i am not sure we need to go to a 3rd, seems to dilute it for me
[2011/02/13 13:04] Jonno Stromfield: Tori, it's not a techincal question
[2011/02/13 13:04] Titiana Haystack: wondered where you were
[2011/02/13 13:04] Commander Quandry: hi
[2011/02/13 13:04] Aseret Quintessa: I think whether you like it or not it has to be closed vote first past post
[2011/02/13 13:04] Lazarus Loxely: hey CQ
[2011/02/13 13:04] Jonno Stromfield: Laz, the third choice doesn't come in if the first two decide it
[2011/02/13 13:04] Commander Quandry: forgot about the meeting TBH
[2011/02/13 13:04] Jonno Stromfield: hi CQ
[2011/02/13 13:04] Lazarus Loxely: lol
[2011/02/13 13:04] Aseret Quintessa: hi CQ
[2011/02/13 13:04] Isis Sheryffe: I can live with 1st and 2nd or closed first past post - no real pref
[2011/02/13 13:04] Commander Quandry: any good?
[2011/02/13 13:05] Titiana Haystack: so those with similar plans need to get together and amalgamate
[2011/02/13 13:05] Jonno Stromfield: Why, As
[2011/02/13 13:05] DeeDee Bookmite: still going on CQ
[2011/02/13 13:05] Aseret Quintessa: because of time limitiations
[2011/02/13 13:05] Lazarus Loxely: how about a 1st past the post vote on AV vs 1st past the post?
[2011/02/13 13:05] Jonno Stromfield: what?
[2011/02/13 13:05] Aseret Quintessa: we can't keep messing about
[2011/02/13 13:05] DeeDee Bookmite: lol
[2011/02/13 13:05] Tori Landau: excuse me... feel a bit dizzy here, just going to look away from screen
[2011/02/13 13:05] Jonno Stromfield: then ask people what they want?>
[2011/02/13 13:05] Aseret Quintessa: oh Tori ;(
[2011/02/13 13:05] Isis Sheryffe: bless
[2011/02/13 13:06] Aseret Quintessa: sorry I don't understand that Laz/Jonno
[2011/02/13 13:06] Jonno Stromfield: ADS please get this sorted by asking people, not just deciding
[2011/02/13 13:06] Lazarus Loxely: i was being a twat as usual apologies
[2011/02/13 13:06] DeeDee Bookmite: :)
[2011/02/13 13:06] Aseret Quintessa: not deciding am asking
[2011/02/13 13:06] Jonno Stromfield: we can easily do 1st 2nd and 3rd votes at the same time
[2011/02/13 13:07] Jonno Stromfield: the 2nd vote is used if the first doesn't settle it
[2011/02/13 13:07] Aseret Quintessa: are you talking about the forum Jonno
[2011/02/13 13:07] Jonno Stromfield: yes
[2011/02/13 13:07] Jonno Stromfield: or IM
[2011/02/13 13:07] Jonno Stromfield: or anything
[2011/02/13 13:07] Aseret Quintessa: no it has to be the forum
[2011/02/13 13:07] Jonno Stromfield: whatever is easiest fro mGreg
[2011/02/13 13:07] Tori Landau: ok, backish
[2011/02/13 13:07] Jonno Stromfield: via the forum
[2011/02/13 13:07] Aseret Quintessa: that is what they steering committtee want
[2011/02/13 13:07] DeeDee Bookmite: wb Tori
[2011/02/13 13:07] Commander Quandry: I'll vote for anything that moves us forward. At the moment OUtopia is stagnating
[2011/02/13 13:07] Isis Sheryffe: wb Tori
[2011/02/13 13:08] Isis Sheryffe: me too CQ
[2011/02/13 13:08] DeeDee Bookmite: I agree CQ
[2011/02/13 13:08] Tori Landau: yes, voting has to be done via forum
[2011/02/13 13:08] Aseret Quintessa: yes we are just trying to get straight how the vote will be done, Tori is speaking to Greg to get the vote organises
[2011/02/13 13:08] Commander Quandry: all the plans are similar. There are only a few differences.
[2011/02/13 13:08] Lazarus Loxely: agreed
[2011/02/13 13:08] Titiana Haystack: Actually as I named Outopia I think I should have final say on everything
[2011/02/13 13:09] Isis Sheryffe: we have been saying that CQ
[2011/02/13 13:09] Tori Landau: lol
[2011/02/13 13:09] Aseret Quintessa: lol T
[2011/02/13 13:09] Prash Mavendorf: i won't be voting on anything to be fair. have been far too distant to make an informed decision.
[2011/02/13 13:09] DeeDee Bookmite: Queen Titiana
[2011/02/13 13:09] Isis Sheryffe: ok Titiana why not
[2011/02/13 13:09] Aseret Quintessa: yes better idea
[2011/02/13 13:09] Titiana Haystack: no empress
[2011/02/13 13:09] Lazarus Loxely: i like your thinking Titiana
[2011/02/13 13:09] Tori Landau: Prash, please vote, it's important ;)
[2011/02/13 13:09] Jonno Stromfield: ok, but PLEASE. Can people here say whether they want first past the post or 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice. perhaps you can ask for a show of hands
[2011/02/13 13:09] Aseret Quintessa: married to Laz
[2011/02/13 13:09] Commander Quandry: I'll vote for that Titiana
[2011/02/13 13:09] DeeDee Bookmite: you are as entitled to a say as anyone Prash
[2011/02/13 13:09] Prash Mavendorf: Empress is too darlek.
[2011/02/13 13:09] Aseret Quintessa: right people lets vote please say in chat what is wanted
[2011/02/13 13:09] Prash Mavendorf: i gave up having a proper say ages ago. lol.
[2011/02/13 13:09] Titiana Haystack: first past the post, but could similar ideas be amalgamated
[2011/02/13 13:09] Aseret Quintessa: I vote first past post
[2011/02/13 13:09] Tori Landau: If it's possible, i'd like 1 2 3
[2011/02/13 13:09] Jonno Stromfield: 1 2 3
[2011/02/13 13:10] Commander Quandry: In order to sure of buy in to the adopted plan a simple majority may not be the best.
[2011/02/13 13:10] Commander Quandry: if a plan wins 51 to 49
[2011/02/13 13:10] Tori Landau: in case we don't get the ideas consensus in time
[2011/02/13 13:10] DeeDee Bookmite: open voting :)
[2011/02/13 13:10] Commander Quandry: we may find a OUtopia that loses 30 disgruntles people
[2011/02/13 13:10] Prash Mavendorf: but if i am going to be serious... i would go first past the post with 5% win.
[2011/02/13 13:10] Tori Landau: good point CQ
[2011/02/13 13:10] Titiana Haystack: have we got 30 people?
[2011/02/13 13:10] Lazarus Loxely: lol
[2011/02/13 13:10] Aseret Quintessa: It’s going to lose peple anyway
[2011/02/13 13:10] Prash Mavendorf: (i.e. 52.5% against 47.5%)
[2011/02/13 13:10] Commander Quandry: Titiana - figures are illustrative
[2011/02/13 13:10] Aseret Quintessa: and yes we haven't 30 whether 81 in group or not
[2011/02/13 13:10] Lazarus Loxely: you shoulda said 30 real people
[2011/02/13 13:10] Tori Landau: actually, recently we have more people
[2011/02/13 13:11] DeeDee Bookmite: lol Titiana
[2011/02/13 13:11] Tori Landau: but have a core of around 20
[2011/02/13 13:11] DeeDee Bookmite: yes and how
[2011/02/13 13:11] DeeDee Bookmite: met some of them
[2011/02/13 13:11] Jonno Stromfield: if we are split here, do we take this to the forum?
[2011/02/13 13:11] DeeDee Bookmite: one had an impressive freenis
[2011/02/13 13:11] DeeDee Bookmite: on the sand box
[2011/02/13 13:11] Aseret Quintessa: yes I would guss so
[2011/02/13 13:11] Titiana Haystack: lol deedee
[2011/02/13 13:11] Jonno Stromfield: ok
[2011/02/13 13:11] Aseret Quintessa: chokes
[2011/02/13 13:11] Lazarus Loxely: i agree with Prash 1st past post + a %
[2011/02/13 13:11] Prash Mavendorf: if we are split, we could have a split forum too.
[2011/02/13 13:11] Tori Landau: Yes, maybe we could use the Voting htread that JOnno started
[2011/02/13 13:11] DeeDee Bookmite: this means war
[2011/02/13 13:11] DeeDee Bookmite: ?
[2011/02/13 13:12] Isis Sheryffe: something I would hate to see is war
[2011/02/13 13:12] Tori Landau: and I'll find out what the OU want re the voting as well
[2011/02/13 13:12] DeeDee Bookmite: 2 tribes sounds interesting
[2011/02/13 13:12] Titiana Haystack: blooody cheek CQ, we're not married
[2011/02/13 13:12] Aseret Quintessa: LOL
[2011/02/13 13:12] DeeDee Bookmite: a mini NI
[2011/02/13 13:12] Commander Quandry: 2 tribes go to war
[2011/02/13 13:12] Aseret Quintessa: sighs
[2011/02/13 13:12] Tori Landau: lol Dee
[2011/02/13 13:12] Titiana Haystack: (see his tag)
[2011/02/13 13:12] Jonno Stromfield: No surrender!
[2011/02/13 13:12] DeeDee Bookmite: riots on the green
[2011/02/13 13:12] Commander Quandry: we could have that continually on the Island Music Stream
[2011/02/13 13:12] Prash Mavendorf: however, i do see some benefit of AV if we don't achieve a number of registered voters of a certain number.
[2011/02/13 13:12] Tori Landau: lol
[2011/02/13 13:12] DeeDee Bookmite: yay Jonno you picked the right side ;)
[2011/02/13 13:13] Prash Mavendorf: i.e. first past the post if we have, for example, 80 voters. Anything less, AV.
[2011/02/13 13:13] DeeDee Bookmite: sighs I don't mind which
[2011/02/13 13:13] Aseret Quintessa: we wil have about 20 Prash
[2011/02/13 13:13] Tori Landau: unfortunately i doubt if we will get 80 voters
[2011/02/13 13:13] Prash Mavendorf: (80 is just an arbitary number!)
[2011/02/13 13:13] Jonno Stromfield: if we get 40, I'll be surprised
[2011/02/13 13:13] Tori Landau: 30 max i think
[2011/02/13 13:13] Isis Sheryffe: ok
[2011/02/13 13:13] Aseret Quintessa: and I think that will be luck if they all vote
[2011/02/13 13:13] Isis Sheryffe: can you honestly see 80 voters I cant
[2011/02/13 13:13] Jonno Stromfield: I agree, Tori
[2011/02/13 13:13] Isis Sheryffe: by the way
[2011/02/13 13:14] Jonno Stromfield: yes.....
[2011/02/13 13:14] Prash Mavendorf: so if we aim for 40 or 50 voters for first past the vote. anything less, AV?
[2011/02/13 13:14] Aseret Quintessa: ok we are split on the voting process
[2011/02/13 13:14] Commander Quandry: have 20 people written on the forum?
[2011/02/13 13:14] Tori Landau: keeping us in suspenders isis ;)
[2011/02/13 13:14] DeeDee Bookmite: no
[2011/02/13 13:14] Jonno Stromfield: about that CQ
[2011/02/13 13:14] Isis Sheryffe: sorry
[2011/02/13 13:14] Isis Sheryffe: trying to open a note I wrote
[2011/02/13 13:14] Aseret Quintessa: 18 I think
[2011/02/13 13:14] Tori Landau: lol, np Isis
[2011/02/13 13:14] Prash Mavendorf: she's just keeping u in suspenders tori. i refuse to wear them.
[2011/02/13 13:14] Isis Sheryffe: wanted to tell you about nos in houses regularly
[2011/02/13 13:14] Prash Mavendorf: lol.
[2011/02/13 13:14] Tori Landau: ooh, go on
[2011/02/13 13:14] Isis Sheryffe: Greg wrote a new scanner
[2011/02/13 13:14] Isis Sheryffe: much better than old one
[2011/02/13 13:15] Jonno Stromfield: good
[2011/02/13 13:15] Aseret Quintessa: back to Vote please
[2011/02/13 13:15] Tori Landau: yes, reliable
[2011/02/13 13:15] Lazarus Loxely: can it read our minds?
[2011/02/13 13:15] Jonno Stromfield: quite right As
[2011/02/13 13:15] Aseret Quintessa: we need to close the meeting soon
[2011/02/13 13:15] Lazarus Loxely looks worried
[2011/02/13 13:15] Prash Mavendorf: it has a devil detector.
[2011/02/13 13:15] DeeDee Bookmite: ok 12.3 voting
[2011/02/13 13:15] Prash Mavendorf: and it detects people in captain suits.
[2011/02/13 13:15] Titiana Haystack: lol
[2011/02/13 13:15] Tori Landau: ok.... imo we should use Jonno's voting thread on forum
[2011/02/13 13:16] Aseret Quintessa: we have to decide on the way to vote now
[2011/02/13 13:16] Isis Sheryffe: will post at the end
[2011/02/13 13:16] Tori Landau: to see what people want
[2011/02/13 13:16] DeeDee Bookmite: lol
[2011/02/13 13:16] Aseret Quintessa: because no vote no OUtopia
[2011/02/13 13:16] Tori Landau: and i'll ask OU opion/technicalities on it
[2011/02/13 13:16] Isis Sheryffe: ok I will go with 1.2 3 then
[2011/02/13 13:16] Commander Quandry: Prash - detect away - I am in a Commander's Uniform
[2011/02/13 13:16] Jonno Stromfield: LO, CQ
[2011/02/13 13:16] Jonno Stromfield: lol
[2011/02/13 13:16] Tori Landau: heheh CQ
[2011/02/13 13:16] Prash Mavendorf: it detects them too. lol.
[2011/02/13 13:16] DeeDee Bookmite: hehe like the tag CQ
[2011/02/13 13:16] Tori Landau: i'm 1 2 3 as well for the record
[2011/02/13 13:16] Aseret Quintessa: k so 123 private vote with Greg and Nial returning officers?
[2011/02/13 13:17] Commander Quandry: I'm 3 2 1
[2011/02/13 13:17] DeeDee Bookmite: averts Laz's eyes
[2011/02/13 13:17] Jonno Stromfield: okay by me
[2011/02/13 13:17] Tori Landau: i must put tags on, can't see what Dee is enjoyijg re Jonno and Cq's tags
[2011/02/13 13:17] Prash Mavendorf: i've already stated my opinion.
[2011/02/13 13:17] Titiana Haystack: but a goddess trumps emperor
[2011/02/13 13:17] Prash Mavendorf: CQ wins the dusty bin. lol.
[2011/02/13 13:17] DeeDee Bookmite: lol
[2011/02/13 13:17] Tori Landau: fine by me As
[2011/02/13 13:17] Aseret Quintessa: is that agreed re vote
[2011/02/13 13:17] Lazarus Loxely: ewww trumpy empress
[2011/02/13 13:17] Jonno Stromfield: I just hope you don't have the animation to go with that, CQ. I remember Ted Rogers
[2011/02/13 13:17] Lazarus Loxely: sounds like grounds for divorce
[2011/02/13 13:17] Aseret Quintessa: is now desperate to close meeting lol
[2011/02/13 13:17] Jonno Stromfield: You have one more duty, As
[2011/02/13 13:18] Prash Mavendorf: woohooo!
[2011/02/13 13:18] Titiana Haystack: sorr As
[2011/02/13 13:18] Prash Mavendorf: lol.
[2011/02/13 13:18] Prash Mavendorf: the meeting is now closed.
[2011/02/13 13:18] Prash Mavendorf: sorry, false alarm.
[2011/02/13 13:18] Prash Mavendorf: lol.
[2011/02/13 13:18] Aseret Quintessa: yes Jonno?
[2011/02/13 13:18] Aseret Quintessa: any other business
[2011/02/13 13:18] Jonno Stromfield: You need to volunteer the next chair and get the date set
[2011/02/13 13:18] Commander Quandry: Only one
[2011/02/13 13:18] Prash Mavendorf: i chose the yellow chair.
[2011/02/13 13:18] Jonno Stromfield: tumbleweed roll past
[2011/02/13 13:18] DeeDee Bookmite: lol
[2011/02/13 13:18] Commander Quandry: when I stand you will all need to use a Kneel Animation
[2011/02/13 13:19] DeeDee Bookmite: :)
[2011/02/13 13:19] Tori Landau: if we are to start voting this thurs at latest until sat 26th...
[2011/02/13 13:19] Jonno Stromfield: I'm not that kinky Commander
[2011/02/13 13:19] Titiana Haystack: yo should be so lucky cq
[2011/02/13 13:19] Aseret Quintessa: yes that sounds okay as long as the plan issue is sorted fast
[2011/02/13 13:19] Titiana Haystack: we're all using yawn animations
[2011/02/13 13:19] Tori Landau: then...Mon 28th so as for Greg to get votes back to us
[2011/02/13 13:19] Aseret Quintessa: Laz can chair
[2011/02/13 13:20] Jonno Stromfield: good choice, As
[2011/02/13 13:20] Prash Mavendorf: we're doomed then. lol.
[2011/02/13 13:20] DeeDee Bookmite: yes I agree
[2011/02/13 13:20] Aseret Quintessa: he wants to be in charge so have a taste of power Laz ;)
[2011/02/13 13:20] Aseret Quintessa: date
[2011/02/13 13:20] Titiana Haystack: I shall pray for you all my children
[2011/02/13 13:20] Tori Landau: agrre re laz
[2011/02/13 13:20] Prash Mavendorf: he'll insist on everyone wearing devils horns for the next meeting. lol.
[2011/02/13 13:20] Isis Sheryffe: good idea
[2011/02/13 13:20] Isis Sheryffe: sorry lag
[2011/02/13 13:20] Jonno Stromfield: on the one horn...
[2011/02/13 13:20] Isis Sheryffe: came in wrong place
[2011/02/13 13:20] Tori Landau: date - 28th, we should hopefully know result then
[2011/02/13 13:20] Prash Mavendorf: no objections from me.
[2011/02/13 13:20] Isis Sheryffe: ok
[2011/02/13 13:21] Aseret Quintessa: so next meeting 28th Feb
[2011/02/13 13:21] Jonno Stromfield: it will give us a few days to get last minute changes before submission
[2011/02/13 13:21] Tori Landau: although with Niall being involved maybe not
[2011/02/13 13:21] Jonno Stromfield: yes
[2011/02/13 13:21] Aseret Quintessa: kk
[2011/02/13 13:21] Tori Landau: we might need to close the voting sooner - the thurs before
[2011/02/13 13:21] Jonno Stromfield: he only has to agree Kick's numbers
[2011/02/13 13:21] Aseret Quintessa: Laz you know your Chair don't you
[2011/02/13 13:21] Tori Landau: yes, but it's the sun and mon, that's all they have
[2011/02/13 13:21] DeeDee Bookmite: he was out of range maybe lol
[2011/02/13 13:22] Jonno Stromfield: 20/30 people voting - it'll only take an hour
[2011/02/13 13:22] Aseret Quintessa: Okay anyother business?
[2011/02/13 13:22] Lazarus Loxely: hope you guys can make later than usual then, i can't commit to an early meeting i am afraid
[2011/02/13 13:22] Tori Landau: I'll talk to kick about it all, but let's say 28th
[2011/02/13 13:22] Aseret Quintessa: k that’s great Tori
[2011/02/13 13:22] DeeDee Bookmite: 9pm?
[2011/02/13 13:22] Jonno Stromfield: you want it at 9?
[2011/02/13 13:22] Tori Landau: i'd like to hear what Isis was going to say about the houses please
[2011/02/13 13:23] Isis Sheryffe: ok
[2011/02/13 13:23] Prash Mavendorf: i think we should have the meeting at 1am.
[2011/02/13 13:23] Lazarus Loxely: what date let me check dont want to let anyone down
[2011/02/13 13:23] Jonno Stromfield: 28th
[2011/02/13 13:23] Isis Sheryffe: WE 29/01/11

No of avs with zero time in OU 51
No of avs between 0 and 60 mins 7

Total not meeting residency nos 58

No of avs meeting residency mins 19

WE 04/02/11

No of avs with zero time in OU 46
No of avs between 0 and 60 mins 18

Total not meeting residency nos 64

No of avs meeting residency mins 13

WE 11/02/11

No of avs with zero time in OU 56
No of avs between 0 and 60 mins 8

Total not meeting residency nos 64

No of avs meeting residency mins 13
[2011/02/13 13:23] Aseret Quintessa: pffff
[2011/02/13 13:23] Isis Sheryffe: wait for it then
[2011/02/13 13:23] Aseret Quintessa: 64 not using houses
[2011/02/13 13:23] Isis Sheryffe: very low numbers actually using homes
[2011/02/13 13:23] Isis Sheryffe: including allotments
[2011/02/13 13:23] Lazarus Loxely: as far as i know 28th is fine, i'll try for 9pm defo no earlier
[2011/02/13 13:23] Isis Sheryffe: 77 homes altogether
[2011/02/13 13:23] Isis Sheryffe: 9 is fine for me
[2011/02/13 13:24] DeeDee Bookmite: fine for me
[2011/02/13 13:24] Tori Landau: 9 ok for me
[2011/02/13 13:24] Tori Landau: interesting stats, but i'm not surprised at the numbers
[2011/02/13 13:24] Prash Mavendorf: i'll do my best for the 28th.
[2011/02/13 13:24] Aseret Quintessa: not sure but will try
[2011/02/13 13:24] Lazarus Loxely: i demand better than that Prash
[2011/02/13 13:24] Isis Sheryffe: at least with these stats we do not need to worry about major upset if houses went
[2011/02/13 13:25] Titiana Haystack: lol
[2011/02/13 13:25] Aseret Quintessa: no that is one thing
[2011/02/13 13:25] Prash Mavendorf: i won't bother on the 28th. any better laz?
[2011/02/13 13:25] Prash Mavendorf: lol.
[2011/02/13 13:25] Lazarus Loxely: i do have a question about that
[2011/02/13 13:25] Aseret Quintessa: although Jonno said about some who do use there homes
[2011/02/13 13:25] Titiana Haystack: I'm sorry for Elsa as sh emust have worked so hard on them
[2011/02/13 13:25] Aseret Quintessa: what would happen about them
[2011/02/13 13:25] DeeDee Bookmite: I write in a declaration using my own blood that I will be there on 28th. Is that okay?
[2011/02/13 13:25] Tori Landau: agree isis
[2011/02/13 13:25] Tori Landau: agre Titiana which is why i included as homes for people in the sandbox plan
[2011/02/13 13:25] Lazarus Loxely: if people have items they bought left in their homes, how do we stand on ownership and dumping
[2011/02/13 13:26] Aseret Quintessa: Dee that is fine could you write in my diary too save me being so extreme
[2011/02/13 13:26] Isis Sheryffe: I think if we had some means of plots then they could have one of those
[2011/02/13 13:26] DeeDee Bookmite: lol As
[2011/02/13 13:26] Isis Sheryffe: so transfer to plt
[2011/02/13 13:26] Aseret Quintessa: ;)
[2011/02/13 13:26] Isis Sheryffe: and they put up Ou style house or their own - up to them
[2011/02/13 13:26] Aseret Quintessa: can't items just be returne
[2011/02/13 13:26] Tori Landau: Laz, items would be reuturned
[2011/02/13 13:26] Aseret Quintessa: returned
[2011/02/13 13:26] Lazarus Loxely: cool
[2011/02/13 13:26] Tori Landau: it's not a problem
[2011/02/13 13:26] Tori Landau: °͜°
[2011/02/13 13:27] Prash Mavendorf: that's a crying shame. lol.
[2011/02/13 13:27] DeeDee Bookmite: brb
[2011/02/13 13:27] Prash Mavendorf: i spend more time on this island than most residents.
[2011/02/13 13:27] Tori Landau: so, plots - not allotment or house is way forward
[2011/02/13 13:27] Aseret Quintessa: so houses
[2011/02/13 13:27] Tori Landau: do what you want
[2011/02/13 13:27] Prash Mavendorf: i agree tori.
[2011/02/13 13:27] Isis Sheryffe: I think plots give folks more choice
[2011/02/13 13:28] Prash Mavendorf: but there needs to be set prim counts.
[2011/02/13 13:28] Jonno Stromfield: plots, yes. forcing people to go one way or another seems odd
[2011/02/13 13:28] Isis Sheryffe: call them allotments or plots same thing
[2011/02/13 13:28] Prash Mavendorf: residents can ask for double plots too.
[2011/02/13 13:28] Aseret Quintessa: I know houses would be provided but what about newibes who don't know what to do with their new house in a box?
[2011/02/13 13:28] Lazarus Loxely: can i have a sub-plot?
[2011/02/13 13:28] Tori Landau: plots might be better, allotment gives image of 'no house allowed'
[2011/02/13 13:28] Jonno Stromfield: good question Prash, but on what grounds?
[2011/02/13 13:28] Prash Mavendorf: or build a student halls of residents.
[2011/02/13 13:28] Aseret Quintessa: a subtext more like Laz
[2011/02/13 13:29] Prash Mavendorf: jonno... if nobody uses the plot next door to them if they want to expand.
[2011/02/13 13:29] Jonno Stromfield: I want all the empty plots here, please
[2011/02/13 13:29] Prash Mavendorf: but for laz, he should only have 2m squared with 5 prims.
[2011/02/13 13:29] Isis Sheryffe: I always offer to help new home owners now if they need help so would just as happily help anyone open a box
[2011/02/13 13:29] Tori Landau: that's where the sandbox plan is easier, pleople can expand
[2011/02/13 13:29] Aseret Quintessa: there seems to be an issue of ownership rights on flats
[2011/02/13 13:29] Jonno Stromfield: that's not good enough, I don't think
[2011/02/13 13:29] Aseret Quintessa: I didn't understand that
[2011/02/13 13:29] Jonno Stromfield: I say one plot per person
[2011/02/13 13:30] Prash Mavendorf: 1 plot per person by default.
[2011/02/13 13:30] Isis Sheryffe: I agree
[2011/02/13 13:30] Jonno Stromfield: You mean that they currently hold tennancy agreemenets?
[2011/02/13 13:30] Isis Sheryffe: one per RL person
[2011/02/13 13:30] Prash Mavendorf: but where spare plots exists next door to them, some students should be able to expand.
[2011/02/13 13:30] Prash Mavendorf: imo
[2011/02/13 13:30] Jonno Stromfield: yes, Isis. nice ditinction
[2011/02/13 13:30] Aseret Quintessa: no what I mean is
[2011/02/13 13:30] Jonno Stromfield: distinction
[2011/02/13 13:30] Tori Landau: ok..... how about we have a mix - saome sandbox so that people can get stuck in immediately plus plots
[2011/02/13 13:30] Lazarus Loxely: plots need to be big enough to express yourself though
[2011/02/13 13:30] Aseret Quintessa: with flats there seemed to be comment that it was a problem
[2011/02/13 13:31] Isis Sheryffe: a bit of both I agree
[2011/02/13 13:31] Tori Landau: and if you have a plot and there's space in the sandbox, you can use some of that as well
[2011/02/13 13:31] Jonno Stromfield: 110 prims is about right Laz
[2011/02/13 13:31] Aseret Quintessa: chat lag
[2011/02/13 13:31] Isis Sheryffe: if there are not too many likely to be needed than a bit bigger than houses now would be possible I think
[2011/02/13 13:31] Jonno Stromfield: there's the giant sandbox too
[2011/02/13 13:31] Prash Mavendorf: if one occupies the sandbox, then there would be less sandbox for non-resident outopians to use.
[2011/02/13 13:31] Tori Landau: i mean, the social sandbox area, that is set to group
[2011/02/13 13:32] Jonno Stromfield: we can tailor it as it goes. the first attempt isn't cast in stone
[2011/02/13 13:32] Aseret Quintessa: I think planning for something when youre not sure its happening is a waste of time ebh
[2011/02/13 13:32] DeeDee Bookmite: bk
[2011/02/13 13:32] Aseret Quintessa: tbh
[2011/02/13 13:32] Isis Sheryffe: yes change can be made - that's one of the points I was making
[2011/02/13 13:32] Aseret Quintessa: and if this is general chat now and doesn't need logging I should close the meeting
[2011/02/13 13:32] Jonno Stromfield: sorry, thought you had.
[2011/02/13 13:32] Isis Sheryffe: yes I think so AS
[2011/02/13 13:33] Isis Sheryffe: sorry i too thought we had done
[2011/02/13 13:33] Prash Mavendorf: i thought the meeting was closed. lol.
[2011/02/13 13:33] Isis Sheryffe: #apologies
[2011/02/13 13:33] Aseret Quintessa: I declare this meeting closed